Civil War – Review

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Hello interweb, Nate here.  Sorry this review is so late but I’m reviewing all 7 issues so this is an unusually long post, on top of that Christmas and New Years held back this review even more, and overall this review just took a lot of time out of my life.  I ultimately decided to post this a day early as tomorrow I’m going to do my New Years special (My Top 10 Posts of 2014 based on views).

So with that said, yes I am going to review all 7 issues so this post might be longer than usual.  If you’re a fast reader and my posts usually don’t take long for you to read, than maybe this post won’t be too long but just keep that in mind.

Writer: Mark Miller

Artists: Steve McNiven (penciler), Dexter Vines, Mark Morales, Steve McNiven, John Dell, and Tim Townsend (Inker)

Major Characters In These Issues

Do to how long this story is, there are quite a few characters in this story and so I was debating on the best way to do the Characters section, especially with the fact that these characters are basically split down the middle with whose anti-act and pro-act.  So ultimately I decided to place the characters in alphabetical order (based on their superhero name) and I would suggest skipping this section and simply looking back at this section if I mention a character that you do not know.  Just to make it easy, I’ll bold the names of the characters if it’s the first time I mention that name in the story section.  Make sense?  I hope so.

 

Black Panther

Black Panther (T’Challa): T’Challa is the chief of Wakanda, a fictional nation in Africa.

Powers: Black Panther is human but he is a skilled fighter and his at Olympic-level strength.

Side: Neutral as he lives in Wakanda, Africa and doesn’t care about the act as a result.

Captain America II

Captain America (Steve Rodgers): Captain America use to be a super soldier from the 40s but was frozen in ice only to wake up in present day.  Check out his Character Bio here.

Powers: Captain America has strength that rivals an Olympic athlete.

Side: Captain America is not only Anti-Act but is the leader of the Anti-Act.

Daredevil

Daredevil (Matt Murdock): Matt Murdock is a lawyer by day and the superhero Daredevil by night.  He gained his abilities after being blinded by radioactive waste and heightened his senses after losing his sense of sight.

Powers: His blindness allows his other senses (hear, touch, etc.) to increase to superhuman levels.  He’s also a skilled martial artist and is at peak human strength.

Side: Anti-Act

Emma Frost

Emma Frost: Emma Frost is a mutant and current co-leader of the Jean Grey School for Higher Learning, a school for mutants, along with Cyclops.

Powers: Her main power is telepathy but she can also turn her skin into organic diamonds, but at the cost of losing said telepathy.

Side: Neutral

Falcon

Falcon (Sam Wilson): Falcon is a friend of Captain America and is actually currently Captain America in the comics (don’t ask, I don’t have time).

Powers: Falcon has the ability to telepathically communicate with birds.  On top of that, he possesses jet-powered wings that allows him to fly.

Side: Anti-Act

Goliath (Bill Foster)

Goliath (Bill Foster): Goliath was once an assistant to Hank Pym (see Yellowjacket) and thus has similar abilities.

Powers: Size and mass alteration

Side: Anti-Act

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Hercules: Hercules is an Olympian from Olympus.

Powers: Since he’s an Olympian, Hercules has god-like abilities such as supernatural strength, immortality, etc.

Side: Anti-Act, although this is due to being close friends with Captain America and not due to any intelligent or moralistic choice.

Human Torch

Human Torch (Johnny Storm): After being hit by cosmic rays with the rest of the Fantastic Four (see Mr. Fantastic, Invisible Woman, and the Thing), Johnny Storm gained superhuman abilities.

Powers: Human Torch’s name says it all.  He possesses the ability to light his whole body in flames and control fire.  He can also channel his flames into the ground to simulate flight, similar to a rocket.

Invisible woman

Invisible Woman (Sue Storm-Richards): Previously known simply as Sue Storm before marrying Mr. Fantastic, Sue Storm-Richards gained superhuman abilities by cosmic rays with the rest of the Fantastic Four (see Mr. Fantastic, Human Torch, and the Thing).

Powers: Invisible Woman has the ability to become invisible (I know, the name is so misleading) as well as create invisible force fields.

Side: She originally begins on the Pro-Act side (mostly because of her husband) but later becomes Anti-Act

Iron Man

Iron Man (Tony Stark): Tony Stark is a billionaire and technological genius who designs several robot-like battle-suits

Powers: Do to being human, Tony does not posses any superhuman abilities but instead uses robotic suits that posses anything from rocket launchers to jet propulsion.

Side: Iron Man is Pro-Act and is actually the leader of the Pro-Act.

Maria Hill

Maria Hill: Commander Maria Hill is the new leader of S.H.I.E.L.D. now that Nick Fury is gone.

Powers: Maria Hill is a normal human so she doesn’t have any “superpowers”.  But do to being the head of S.H.I.E.L.D. she does have countless soldier and several superheroes at her disposal.

Side: Pro-Act

Mr. Fantastic

Mr. Fantastic (Reed Richards): Mr. Fantastic was hit with cosmic rays along with the rest of the Fantastic Four (see Human Torch, Invisible Woman, and the Thing) to gain superhuman abilities.  Side note: he’s married to Invisible Woman.

Powers: Mr. Fantastic has the ability of superhuman elasticity, malleability, and shape shifting.  Think Elastigirl from Pixar’s Incredibles.

Side: Pro-Act

Namor

Namor McKenzie: Namor is a mutant Atlantean and king of Atlantis.

Powers: Atlantean powers

Side: Neutral

 

FYI, Nova quit before this event

FYI, Nova quit before this event

New Warriors (Team): The New Warriors are a group of juvenile superheroes who stars in their own reality TV show.  Due to this, they often do stupid things simply to get views.

Side: It was never specified as their only importance was to set off the war in the first place.

Nitro

Nitro: Nitro isn’t a very well-known villain and is actually best known for this event.

Powers: Nitro has the ability of self-detonation and then reforming as a living gaseous form afterwords.

Side: It was never specified as his only importance was to set off the war in the first place.

Patriot

Patriot (Elijah Bradley): Patriot is a member of the Young Avengers.

Powers: Enhanced condition (peak human strength, speed, stamina, durability, healing, etc.)

Side: Anti-Act

Punisher

Punisher (Frank Castle): After witnessing his family being killed, Frank Castle became the Punisher.  As the Punisher, he uses lethal forces to kill those who breaks the laws.  Which is different than most superheroes as most follow a “no kill” policy.

Powers: Punisher is a normal human but he knows how to kill and posseses many firearms and lethal equipment.

Side: Anti-Act

 

Iron-Spider suit

Iron-Spider suit

Classic Spider-man suit

Classic Spider-man suit

Spider-man (Peter Parker): Peter Parker get’s bitten by a radioactive spider and gains spider powers.  It should be noted that for a huge part of the Civil War storyline, Spidey is wearing his Iron-Spider suit and not his normal suit.

Powers: Spider-man possesses abilities similar to that of a spider.  This includes the ability to walk on walls, shoot webs (via home-made web-shooters), have a spider-sense (an early warning system for oncoming attacks), superhuman strength (can lift about 10 tons), speed (run at 200 mph), and reflexes.  While wearing the Iron-Spider suit (given to him and designed by Tony Stark) he can fly, has increased durability, and has four extendable spider-like legs that comes out of his back (think Doc Ock only spider instead of octopus).

Side: Early on Spider-man is Pro-Act mostly because he doesn’t want there to be a war but later becomes Anti-Act as he realize that the SRA is causing the war.

The Thing

Thing (Ben Grimm): The Thing gains his powers from cosmic rays just like the rest of the Fantastic Four (see Invisible Woman, Human Torch, and Mr. Fantastic).

Powers: The Thing looks as if he’s made out of rocks and has high amounts of strength and durability.

Side: Pro-Act

Thor

Thor: Thor is an Asgaurdian and the god of thunder.  It should be noted that Thor died before this series and the Thor in this series is a clone created by Tony Stark (who knew you could clone a god)

Powers: Being a god, Thor has many god like abilities such as supernatural strength, electricity control, etc.  (The clone in this story seems to have similar powers but lacks intelligence and thus goes on instincts, and in comics instinct=aggression)

Side: Thor is dead but his clone is Pro-Act simply because he is lead by Iron Man

Wiccan

Wiccan (William Kaplan): Wiccan is a mage as well as a mutant who is part of the Young Avengers.

Powers: Wiccan mainly uses magic.

Side: Anti-Act

Yellowjacket

Yellowjacket (Hank Pym): Formerly known as Ant-Man, Goliath and Giant-Man, Hank Pym is a scientist and one of the top scientists in the Marvel U.

Powers: Size and mass alteration and the ability to control insects.

Side: Pro-Act

 

Story

Issue 1 of 7

The story begins with the New Warriors as they are about to attack a house full of supervillains that are way too powerful for them.  During the battle one of the villains name Nitro self-detonate and destroys a whole block.  Killing the New Warriors and a school full of elementary kids.Iron Man and Captain America Civil War

In the next scene we see several Avengers and a few X-Men helping with the clean up several hours later and several skeletons are on the ground.  There is a lot of upset people around and everyone seems quite disturbed at the carnage (which is understandable).  Iron Man and Captain America in particularly are talking about the incident and how serious it is.

In the next scene we see several panels of news reporters talking about the horrible accident and a church where a funeral is taking place.  After the funeral, an outraged woman (outraged is definitely an understatement) spits in Tony Stark’s face and blames him for the death of her son as she says that Tony says its ok to go around as a vigilante as long as you have superpowers before she storms away.

“…WHO FINANCES THE Avengers?  WHO’S BEEN TELLING KIDS FOR YEARS THAT THEY CAN LIVE OUTSIDE THE LAW AS LONG AS THEY’RE WEARING TIGHTS?- -COPS HAVE TO TRAIN AND CARRY BADGES, BUT THAT’S TOO BORING FOR TONY STARK.- -NAH, JOE BILLIONAIRE HERE SAYS ALL YOU NEED ARE SOME POWERS AND A BAD@$$ ATTITUDE, AND HAVE A PLACE IN HIS SUPER PRIVATE SUPER-GANG.”

After this, we see the Human Torch flying towards an unknown girl and proceed to walk into a club and skipping the line.  A random stranger than gets upset at this in which Johnny tells her that he can do this as he’s saved the world numerous times.  But this only anger someone else as he brings up the incident that killed a whole school of elementary kids.  This causes Human Torch to defend himself saying he had nothing to do with that only to be knocked unconscious by a beer bottle.  The next panel shows a news reporter confirming that the Human Torch was not the only superhuman who has been attacked.

We then cut to a room where a bunch of Avengers members are arguing over what has happened.  Many members believing that superheroes should give up the right to hide behind masks and others arguing to keep their IDs a secret.

In the next scene we see Captain America at the S.H.I.E.L.D. heli-carrier with Commander Maria Hill (look for Maria Hill in the Characters section).  Maria Hill then tells Cap that she has planned to make it illegal for super-humans to fight crime with a secret identity.  Cap then argues against this and the two argues over this while Hill commands several soldiers to point tranquilizer guns at Cap.  Captain America then proceeds to attack several of the soldiers and escape without getting hit.

Iron Man, Yellowjacket, and Mr. Fantastic Civil War

To finish part 1 of 7, we see hundreds of people surrounding the White House with signs for the ban on secret identities.  Inside the WH we see Iron Man with Mr. Fantastic and Yellowjacket confirming that the Superhuman Registration Act (or SRA) is now a law.

 

Issue 2 of 7

In the first few pages we see that Captain America is secretly fighting crime and is in hiding.  Several Pro-Act superheroes are publicly fighting crime and is beloved once again by the public.  Mr. Fantastic and Invisible Woman is talking about the future of superheroes while the Thing takes care of their kids (Invisible Woman than heads to the hospital to see Human Torch).  On top of this, J Jonah Jameson hopes Spider-man will reveal himself as we see Spider-man swinging around the city in his Iron-Spider suit.

We then cut to see S.H.I.E.L.D. hunting down Patriot.  Patriot is then taken down and arrested along with the rest of the Young Avengers (a juvenile version of the Avengers).  Then Captain America and Falcon (both disguised as S.H.I.E.L.D. agents) helps break them out by using one of Wiccan‘s spells.  The spell than teleports them to Captain America’s secret base where the resistance HQ is.

Spider-man Civil War

The issue ends with Spider-man (now in is classic red and blue suit) revealing to the public that his name is Peter Parker and he has been Spider-man since he was 15-years old (much to Jameson’s shock who was watching on a TV).

 

Issue 3 of 7

The issue starts with Mr. Fantastic trying to convince Black Panther to come to America and help with the SRA but he refuses.  According to the notes at the end of the book, Mr. Fantastic wanted Black Panther to come to America and join the Pro-Registration attempts as his stance as an Avenger can help.

We then see Tony Stark having tea with Emma Frost and attempting to persuade her to join the Pro-Act as the X-Men has stayed out of it up to that point.  But Emma insists that they stay out of it as if she and the rest of the X-Men doesn’t fight crime, then they have the right to stay neutral in the war.

In the next scene we see Captain America, Hercules, Daredevil, and Goliath at a restaurant in different disguises.  After discussing a new plan of attack, they get into their superhero uniforms in a back-alley.  They head to a chemical plant only to be stopped by Iron Man and the rest of the Pro-Act-ers (Pro-Actees?  Pro-Act people?).  We now see all the Pro-Act superheroes and all the Anti-Act superheroes as Iron Man tries to convince Cap to hear him out.  Cap then shakes Iron Man’s hand only to leave something that makes his suit deactivate and Goliath increasing size behind him.

Captain America then proceeds to attack the defenseless Iron Man, Goliath and Yellowjacket (who also increase in size) fights each other, and the rest of the superheroes fight.  Once Iron Man’s armor turns back on, he attacks Cap and beats him up pretty good.  This issue ends with Thor appearing and everyone’s surprised to see him alive (as he died before this event).

 

Issue 4 out of 7

Thor killing GoliathWe open up just as we left off with Thor attacking everyone in his line of sight.  While Thor’s going crazy, Iron Man is defeating the now beaten up Captain America.  Iron Man uses some type of device that produces sound that hurts everyone except for those whose on his side (as they have protection) and Thor (as he’s a god).  Hercules then attacks Iron Man with a bunch of debris and Falcon swoops down to save Cap.  Goliath then attacks Thor only for Thor to shoot a bolt of lightning straight through Goliath’s heart, killing him.  Everyone is dumbfounded but there’s no time for brooding as the Anti-Act superheroes are teleported out.  We then see everyone staring at the corpse of Goliath and Spider-man questioning Tony about weather the SRA is actually a good idea.

“I hate the promise of big deaths in events.  It’s so cheap.  It’s just bad writing.  We could have had Cap, Spidey, and Iron Man all dead in a double-page spread here, but you know they’re coming back in six months.  It’s meaningless and just a repeat of the death of Phoenix, Supergirl or the Flash.  I wanted a death to mean something and even a relatively little-known character should be treated with respect, his death having story ramifications.  I’ve said this before, but why kill characters unnecessarily?  Obviously, they have to die sometime, but every character is somebody’s favorite and I’d be p!$$ed off if I saw my favorite character killed of in a panel followed by no repercussions.  It’s just cheap.  I’ve said this a million times, don’t buy this series looking for big deaths. You can shake things up and do something new without resorting to that.”

-Mark Millar, Writer of Civil War

We see after the fight everyone that is Pro-Act is grieving over the loss of Goliath.  We also see all the supers that are Anti-Act not exactly too up and cheery either.  During Goliath’s funeral, Peter Parker, Aunt May, and Mary Jane are seen talking about something (but it’s unknown what).  We then see Invisible Woman writing a letter to Mr. Fantastic and leaving because she’s sick of the SRA and wants Mr. Fantastic to end it (this is when she switch sides). We see Human Torch (whose now out of the hospital) and Thing playing with the kids and Mr. Fantastic sleeping.

This issue ends when Iron Man is is asking the help of the Thunder Bolts (a group of supervillains) too help them.

 

Issue 5 of 7

Punisher and Spidey Civil WartThis issue starts with Spider-man and Iron Man as Spidey want’s to go Anti-Act.  iron Man tries to stop him but Spidey succeeds in escaping.  The Thunder Bolts then find him and gang up on him, beating him up pretty bad.  Spidey would have died if the Punisher didn’t save him.  Punisher then brings Spider-man to Captain America where they start treating Spidey’s wounds.

The issue ends when Daredevil is arrested and placed in the Negative Zone with the other caught Anti-Act superheroes.

 

Issue 6 of 7

This issue starts as we see the Pro-Acts deciding what to do next while the Punisher is sneaking into Baxter Building (Avengers HQ) skillfully dodging the security. As this is happening, Invisible Woman visits Namor in Atlantis and tries to convince him to help her and Cap, he refuses as he has no care about American soil.

Back at the Anti-Act HQ, Spider-man (now back in his classic outfit) is greeted by Cap and co.  as he’s healed up.  They then discuss the information the Punisher came back with about the Negative Zone prison as Punisher kills to villains that was working with Cap and co.  Cap retaliated by attacking Punisher but Punisher refused to fight Captain America, causing Cap to stop his onslaught.

The issue ends with Cap and the other Anti-Acts about to head to the Negative Zone before Iron Man and the Pro-Acts uses the portal to get to Cap’s HQ.

 

Issue 7 of 7

The final face-off starts and superheroes and supervillains face off against each other.  But they are then all teleported outside as civilians are running away in surprise and fear.

The next chunk of this issue everyone is fighting.  Fists are fighting, lightning is shooting, weapons are firing, property damage is increasing, etc.  But then Captain America has gotten Iron Man on the ground.  Iron Man tells Cap to finish it, Cap glares at him before a bunch of civilians tackles Cap and holds him back.  Captain America tells them to let him go and that he doesn’t want to hurt them, only for them to tell him that it’s too late for that.

Caps defeat in civil warSuddenly, shock and realization hits him as he looks at all the destruction that has happened.  He realize that he’s no longer fighting for the people, their just fighting.  Everyone stops and stares as Captain America removes his mask, saying that Captain America isn’t turning himself is, Steve Rodgers is.

The issue, and story, ends with Punisher picking up Cap’s mask, superheroes cleaning up the damage, others superheroes registering, and those that don’t register being arrested.

 

Art

The art is top notch and excellent.  There’s frankly nothing to complain about.  Everything looks great and nothing looks rushed.

 

Final Thoughts

Honestly this event is really great.  I personally like it better than AVX and I loved that one.  Plus it brings up the age old question: should superheroes have secret identities?  It brings up a lot of things to think about.  Plus this series doesn’t even have a main villain.  No one’s the villain here, it’s just an argument that went out of control.

Now I know you guys want me to answer the question: Do I think superheroes should have secret identities?  Now considering that Marvel is a fictional universe, yes.  The secret identity just adds more drama and suspense.  If this was real life?  Then I would actually be against a secret identity.  I mean, how safe would you feel knowing that these super humans are running around and you don’t know whose who?  That would be scary.

If I would to rank this on a 5 point rating system (1 being terrible, 2 being bad, 3 being ok, 4 being good to read, and 5 being amazing) I would give it a 5.

 

End Poll

So today I have two polls.  One being: Would you be pro secret identity or anti secret identity for a fictional universe.  The other being: would you be pro secret identity or anti secret identity for our real life universe?  I’m just curious on the results.

38 comments

    1. Good question, she is in this storyline and she is Pro-Act with Hank Pym. The reason I never bothered to mention her is because she’s mostly in the background and did very little to effect the story.

      Also the Ant-Man character bio (I believe it was you who requested it) is in the works and will be posted soon enough.

  1. Definitely a great Marvel Event and I’m Pro Secret Identity all the way. In both scenarios we know that data is never safe for long so the thought of putting everyone’s identities out in public like that is just too dangerous. All of the street level heroes who aren’t rich won’t be able to protect their families while keeping up their daily job. So, I was on Cap’s side throughout the event.

    1. Yeah I’m comics they always say that the hero’s family are risk with a secret identity, but in reality would villains really be dumb enough to touch Spidey’s girlfriend? But I do see your point and it was an awesome even 😀

      1. I think it’s trickiest for heroes like Spidey and Superman as opposed to Punisher and Deathstroke. For example, a villain can quickly off Gwen or Lois and then wait for the hero to take them to prison. It may sound like a bad deal since they’ll do 10-20 in prison, but they’d probably break out the next week so they will be satisfied that they will have upset the heroes. They may not dare to do so on someone like the Punisher, but that’s because he would take them out of the fight for good. It’s an uphill battle for the heroes already so I think that releasing their identities would make it even trickier. There are definitely pros and cons to it of course. I think it would be great if they adapted this into an animated film someday. Marvel doesn’t have many of those coming out at the moment.

    2. It’s hard to say. The point I was trying to make is that while some heroes may be trustworthy, some might not. There will be irresponsible superheroes like the New Warriors that could potentially harm people. If I developed, let’s say…Human Torch’s powers and I decided to get a fireproof suit to hide my secret identity and I thought I would protect people but I accidentally burn down a building or harm civilians? Wouldn’t it be safer for others if superheroes are trained?

      1. True, but at the same time, the Marvel universe has a bad track record with such things. Just look at the times where a corrupt general at Arkum Asylum decided to abuse the patients or when Cadmus and the government decided to experiment upon the volunteers. You’re never truly safe once the government knows who you are since the villains quickly hack into them once the data is there, or one of the moles. I prefer to take my chances with the vigilantes.

    3. here’s the way I see it:

      Pros for a secret ID:
      1. Loved ones are relatively safe
      2. You can live a normal life outside of being a superhero
      3. If the government sees you as a vigilante then you can avoid getting arrested
      4. Your life doesn’t effect your superhero’s life as ,much. For example, if Bruce Wayne has a drunken meltdown and destroys his mansion that doesn’t at all effect the public’s view of Batman, but if Tony Stark has a drunken meltdown and destroys his mansion than that direclty effects Iron Man and everyone sees Iron Man as dangerous and unstable.
      5.

      Pros to public identities
      1. No “Honey! Where’s my super-suit!?” moments. In other words, you don’t have to worry about a secret Identity. Spider-man needs to run away and hide before getting changed and then coming up for an excuse later for your disappearance while Wonder Woman (who I believe has a public identity) can just smash up supervillains in everyday clothing (and based on her superhero uniform…I think she should probably do that more often)
      2. You can gain the trust of citizens as your not hiding behind a mask
      3. You get credit for the victories you have
      4. You can play the superhero card (like how I mentioned in the review where Johnny Storm was about to simply walk into a club, Peter Parker would never be able to do that as people don’t know he’s Spider-man)
      5.

      There’s probably more points but that’s what I came up on the spot

      1. I definitely agree with your points. To an extent, you definitely benefit either way. I just think that if you’re more of a solo act like Punisher, Winter Soldier, or Hawkgirl, then public identities have more pros than cons so it’s worth it and vice versa for someone like Iron Man and Batman. That’s one of the reasons why the series was so fun, it was nice to see them debate this…at least until they all just gave up on doing this peacefully and then went into the epic action!

      2. Of course, that’s what the Registration Act wishes to get rid of, the choice. They got pretty extreme with how far they’d go to get your identity, but luckily that’s where Deadpool came in as he wiped out the data. It was pretty cool to see him get a starring role.

      1. The follow up. After the Registration Act won, they forced all of the heroes to start registering. Secret Invasion happened and then it all wrapped up in Siege. Basically, Osborn took advantage of the fact that every identity was on the SHIELD database. (Which is why i’m always against it) So, they hired Deadpool to take care of it since he’ll tackle any mission for money and he succeeded in helping eliminate the names. I forgot exactly how he helped since Iron Man deleted the files from the mainframe, but he got the evidence on Osborn and it helped the truth come to light. Siege was a pretty uneventful event otherwise.

      1. That part was definitely infamous since many people say that it’s the point where Spiderman’s comics started going downhill and they never quite made it back up to how they used to be. I can see why they made that decision though since it would be hard to continue his stories otherwise

      1. Yeah, I never read it but I know it’s pretty hated amongst Spidey fans. As of recently I have read Superior Spider-man, which I honestly enjoyed, and the first 5 or 6 issues of the Marvel Now!’s Amazing Spider-man, which I also enjoyed. I’ve read Edge of Spider-verse #1 and #1 and Spider-man and the X-Men #1.

      2. For me, the main reason why I find it hard to enjoy a lot of the current Amazing Spider Man issues is that they portray Peter Parker to be way too interested in romance to the point where he can be a bit perverted. The team up with Black Cat and Daredevil was terrible. The issues where he doesn’t get to deal with female characters who he is attracted too can be better, but it’s just hard to forget what the author has done. He met a new character for 5 minutes in a recent issue before they started making out. He’s just not the classic hero that I remember anymore. Now, during the Cosmic Arcs from the 80’s, that’s the ultimate Spiderman for me!

      1. It helped to influence him, but it definitely doesn’t have power over his character. He just wanted to do it and the spider sense brought that to the surface. Kind of like when our sub conscious overrides our conscious thoughts. Spiderman should still know better before doing such a thing and it feels like he’s probably made out with dozens of characters over the years. That’s pretty messed up if you ask me. At least back in the 90’s, it was mainly just Mary Jane for him, at least during his prime. Then other writers decided to take their shots at writing his comics and things got dicey. Naturally, nothing beats his 60’s issues.

    4. Ah I see. Honestly I loved him best when he was still a teenager. So yeah, I guess his 60s issues were probably the best. And I must admit that if I would to compare the current Spider-man and Miles Morales I’m enjoying Miles Morales a bit more. But that is in the ultimate universe so….

      1. Miles has been a pretty good character so far so I won’t argue there. I read the first 2-3 trade paperbacks of the series, but it’s been a while since I checked out an issue. I definitely liked where the story was going.

      2. Ah, not bad then! I’m pretty sure that my library hasn’t ordered any more volumes yet, but maybe the next one just isn’t out then. I assume that I must be behind by a few volumes, but maybe it’s just felt like a long time.

      3. Hmm, I guess it was only a matter of time until more people started to find out. Hopefully, Miles does a good job of handling this or the villains are going to try and kidnap her. So far, that hasn’t really happened to him so he’s been lucky.

      1. True, he’s definitely entitled to make a few mistakes since he’s still new at the gig. Hopefully, he’s able to keep it small though so that he can bounce back from it without too much difficulty.

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